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Nor are they 13 year old kids. I think that's the major issue in the article.
Are we sure there is no requirement for a parent to register if one is not of legal age?
I can't recall when I have seen a juvenile be able to sign something official like this.
 
Nor are they 13 year old kids. I think that's the major issue in the article.

So, you anticipate that in the future, the registration will ask for, and display a registrant's age? Because it does not now.

While I have no interest in defending the FAA with this suas registration, you guys have to understand that flying a model aircraft is not a constitutional right.
 
Full scale aircraft may not be kept at a residence, but is registered to one.
Not sure what distinction you mean?
Sorry Dave, I didn't maybe communicate correctly. It's a bit of a mute comment from me anyway not being in the US!

The whole thing does seem to have that 'rushed out for Christmas' feeling. I meant that most full size registered aircraft owners have their aircraft asset somewhere else other than the address in in register. There seems to be a higher privacy and security risk as most UAV owners will have their asset at their registered address and that also naturally being a home and with a family.

Purely as a point of interest, or maybe not to some, here in the UK currently it's only commercial pilots that are registered AND their aircraft.

Publicly all that is searchable is an alphabetical list of the company or T/A name or persons name, CAA ID no., issue/expiry date. If enforcement entities need it they can obtain further info from the ID no.
 
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Sorry Dave, I didn't maybe communicate correctly. It's a bit of a mute comment from me anyway not being in the US!

The whole thing does seem to have that 'rushed out for Christmas' feeling. I meant that most full size registered aircraft owners have their aircraft asset somewhere else other than the address in in register. There seems to be a higher privacy and security risk as most UAV owners will have their asset at their registered address and that also naturally being a home and with a family.

Purely as a point of interest, or maybe not to some, here in the UK currently it's only commercial pilots that are registered AND their aircraft.

Publicly all that is searchable is an alphabetical list of the company or T/A name or persons name, CAA ID no., issue/expiry date. If enforcement entities need it they can obtain further info from the ID no.

I see. Your point is that a potential thief could find out where to go to steal a drone?

I guess I had not thought of that as being a problem, but maybe it could be? Perhaps drone manufactures should begin including a required PIN to arm a drone, making it useless to thieves?
 
So, you anticipate that in the future, the registration will ask for, and display a registrant's age? Because it does not now.

While I have no interest in defending the FAA with this suas registration, you guys have to understand that flying a model aircraft is not a constitutional right.
Riding a bike, horse or even a skate board is not a constitutional right and many thousands of people have used them to do major crimes or have been injured and killed using them and you wont hear anything about registration or ban of them.
So whats your point ?
 
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I see. Your point is that a potential thief could find out where to go to steal a drone?

I guess I had not thought of that as being a problem, but maybe it could be? Perhaps drone manufactures should begin including a required PIN to arm a drone, making it useless to thieves?
We would not need a pin to arm if we are not public record.
 
Riding a bike, horse or even a skate board is not a constitutional right and many thousands of people have used them to do major crimes or have been injured and killed using them and you wont hear anything about registration or ban of them.
So whats your point ?
Well, using your example, skateboarding was in fact demonized in it's time in a smaller but similar way that drones are being demonized now.
But, I guess my point is that we are talking about the NAS, and for better or worse, we have this new registration requirement.
 
First I appreciate your not defending the FAA as they're indefensible. However I take issue with your next declaration so although part of the Declaration of Independence this first sentence in the formation of our great country represents what we want today just as much as it did when it was written.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
Next you are incorrect my and our wishes to fly model aircraft are indeed a constitutional right as per the 9th amendment to the constitution and part of the bill of rights.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
So in other words until there exists a law against flying model aircraft doing so is a protected constitutional right. Further I and I'm sure many here consider doing so part of our pursuit of happiness. Personally I would encourage a boycott of the registration process based upon the fact that a group of people we didn't elect have bypassed the legislative process and written for all intents and purposes laws affecting all of us.

So, do you think you should or should not get a drivers lic, car registraion, etc.? Ignore rules and laws we disagree with? Sorry, I'm not sure what you are getting at?

But that's ok. I don't really need to understand or debate anything. If you personally don't register your UAS, I really don't care either way.
 
The difference is the laws you reference are in fact laws and yes I will follow them like it or not. They were enacted through the process our form of government uses to create laws. What we're discussing is a knee jerk reaction from a group of regulators who have bypassed the legislative process but expect to produce the same result. Lastly though you don't need to understand or debate there exists no ill will only a conversation as just like you've said we aren't going to change it here. That said we can all learn a thing or two from time to time discussing our interests with others. Kinda the point of this isn't it?

Sure. And, I agree with your points about the FAA's knee jerk reaction. But, fact is, I will comply. If there are guys that want to protest against the registration by not registering rather than by building consensus with their elected officials, then eventually, we will probably get to see if the FAA's new registration stands up in court, which would be fine.
 
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First I appreciate your not defending the FAA as they're indefensible. However I take issue with your next declaration so although part of the Declaration of Independence this first sentence in the formation of our great country represents what we want today just as much as it did when it was written.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
Next you are incorrect my and our wishes to fly model aircraft are indeed a constitutional right as per the 9th amendment to the constitution and part of the bill of rights.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
So in other words until there exists a law against flying model aircraft doing so is a protected constitutional right. Further I and I'm sure many here consider doing so part of our pursuit of happiness. Personally I would encourage a boycott of the registration process based upon the fact that a group of people we didn't elect have bypassed the legislative process and written for all intents and purposes laws affecting all of us.

Preach it brother.
 
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I see. Your point is that a potential thief could find out where to go to steal a drone?
Because there are so many thieves out looking for a drone to steal.
And if they were .... and could hack the registry database to get a full listing what would they have?
A list of names and addresses of drone owners.
But nothing to indicate who has a $50 250 gram toy drone and who has an Inspire or something more expensive.
Any specialised drone thieves would do a lot better targeting shops than wasting time looking into the database.
 
So in other words until there exists a law against flying model aircraft doing so is a protected constitutional right. Further I and I'm sure many here consider doing so part of our pursuit of happiness. Personally I would encourage a boycott of the registration process based upon the fact that a group of people we didn't elect have bypassed the legislative process and written for all intents and purposes laws affecting all of us.
So how does charging $5 per three years, while not introducing any new rules or regulations affect your pursuit of happiness?
 
Currently, it's not.. If you are afraid that your information will not be kept private, then talk with your federal representatives. Complaining to this forum isn't going to change anything.
I'm not afraid or complaining as my name and addresses are already all over the world net with pictures of more spendy items than drones I was just giving my opinion. It dousnt bother me that I had to register but I agree with many others that don't live in fort nox like I do that it shouldn't be public record.
I don't care much for thieves and if my info was used to try a burglary it would be the last for the bad guy so in a sorta way
the registration is a invitation for a very bad day for the thief at my home.
 
The immediate removal of privacy I had prior for one.
Every freedom that is restricted is nothing more than an increase in the slow erosion of our freedoms.
I wonder why the privacy attached to the ownership of your vehicle is of so much more importance than of a drone.
Could it be that they want you to think twice before sacrificing your privacy for a flying camera.
Privacy?? You've got as much now as you had last month.
Every freedom that is restricted is nothing more than an increase in the slow erosion of our freedoms.
What freedom has been restricted? You can still fly just the same as always.
There are no new rules or restrictions.
I wonder why the privacy attached to the ownership of your vehicle is of so much more importance than of a drone.
Could it be that they want you to think twice before sacrificing your privacy for a flying camera.
Really ?? I can't see how you have any less privacy than previously.
This makes no difference except for the $5 every 3 years.

It just looks like you're trying hard to make some anti-government statement but not coming up with anything convincing either anti-government or to show your freedoms are affected.
 

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