T600-D FCC####1410 vs, T601 FCC####1510

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No, Im not implying the barcode sticker is a V1 sticker but maybe the QR code is? We'll see soon enough what ends up being on a 1510.

However, Im with you and its time to move on. Hopefully I'll have a 1510 version in the near future but there is no doubt discrepancies exist between DJI FCC specs and what they are delivering in the US.
 
You can argue all you want but a power increase is a power increase no matter how you want to define it.

Who here doesn't want that, raise their hands!
Its a significant increase in tx power, significant!
I want a stronger connection to my drone.
My customers want a stronger connection to my drone
My insurance company wants a stronger connection to my drone.
Who wouldn't want this significant increase in tx to drone signal?

I'm pissed as an early adopter, B version, that I don't get the option of paying more for the higher power transmitter, higher kv motors, etc, (most things on this planet get upgraded, that's how life is).

BUT ...... as posted by others, if 2 humans living in the USA both pay $3100 US coin for V2, and one gets the new V2, and another gets old model V1, NO WAY IS THAT RIGHT !!!
I commend the time and effort put into this DJI cover-up (that's exactly what it is), and can't believe some members here would attack the messengers? This site is so much different then the other sites, very polarizing, one side vs the other, (not good for the 'whole' of the site).
One chap even posted that he was not happy with the "delivery" of the info. Really?
Gene
 
PLEASE CLICK ON GREY AREA FOR COMPLETE POST I agree if DJI sells a V2, especially given they charge more, it's a V2 however given they have reported to the FCC that there was a specific transmitter developed for it I'm wondering what word you prefer to use rather than "incomplete" Please enlighten us as to the proper terminology as maybe it's a translation from Chinese to English we're struggling with.

Finally I have to respectfully ask as you live in Europe and do not claim to be employed by DJI why you have here and else ware appointed yourself PR Director and continue to field answers to questions and shape conversations about situations you have nothing to do with. All of which done without a shred of verifiable evidence to back it up. Finally in an effort to possibly communicate how many of us might feel I have a B model Inspire 1 I have now installed the larger gimble mount, the X5, the high heels, and even a V2 light bridge. I happen to have a set of brand new 3510 motors attached to brand new ESC's would you please trade me your V2 3510H motors for my 3510s since your only carrying an X3 and specifications and changes in performance really aren't that important. I'll pay the shipping.
 
Ok Guys,
I spent 6 hours, 3.5 waiting on hold, with DJI support/tech today. Talked to four tech reps and got several different answers to the same transmitter issue questions.
I of course presented the spec sheets data. One asked me where I got the spec sheets and who was the testing agency. I told him that it came from the FCC and that the testing agency was "Bay Area Compliance Labs Corp." I then started presenting the dBm to Mw data and I could tell he was writing this down, he kept saying hold on a second to catch up. He finally admitted that he had not seen anybody provide such data to him before and then he gave up and asked me to be placed on hold for a minute so he could check with the chief inspire technician. The phone went dead on their end within 20 seconds.
Another tech rep after exhausting his knowledge asked me to be put on a brief hold so they could get the INSPIRE PROFESSIONAL TEHC REP to answer my questions. Well, after a couple minutes on hold the phone, their end hung up. It made me so mad I called back and after being 4th in the que I waited and in about 30 minutes another tech rep attempted to answer my questions, as I had the copies of the 1410 and 1510 spec sheets printed out and proceeded to go over them with him too. He gave up and asked for me to be on hold for a second so his supervisor could speak to me. Again, after a couple minutes on hold the phone, their end hung up.
Does this tell you something?? DJI is scrambling to cover this up and I mean scrambling. They don't even want to talk about it, especially when they are confronted by their own FCC I1transmitter and remote transmitter data and differences in what someone bought in December vs January.
Defend DJI all you want but this tells the story. They are still trying to sweep this under the rug. It's too bad they are getting over on unsuspecting buyers that do not even know they have been had. Ok Chnjab, we've done all we can here.
 
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[QUOTE="Chnjab[/QUOTE]

As I said I'm done on this, all I have added was more information and questioned some finding, if your going to post this kind of thing you should expect and welcome questioning, but as that does not suit your agenda you resort to personal attacks and all this does is show your true nature and real agenda, I have none regardless of your opinion on me.


There is more I can say on the Fcc paperwork as what your interpreting as being incorrectly submitted to the FCC is not based on my understanding from the FCC them selves.


Thats it I won't be posting again.

Good day.
 
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Well, h e double hockey sticks..........I have a 1410 Pro X5, bought Dec. 27, with a "C" controller. I also ordered an additional controller that is an "A".......????

I love knowing the facts and the truth - but it sure does hurt my little feelings now and then. Oh well, good thing I've ridden Harley's for years, very accustomed to swimming in the shallow end of the pool.........LOL. I'm now tempted to start photographing lighting, explicitly. Thank-you for your shared knowledge. I'll be one of the guys keeping stats on the brand new model, that was taken off the shelf and reconfigured.......I knew the packing didn't look like the un boxed videos on YouTube. It flys great, already working out the little kinks, so it's a keeper.
 
Guys the fact is they're both v2's. They started manufacturing the 601 the beginning of Dec. I have tested both models and there's no difference in range or control link. If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy to have a 601, I would wait for another month for the older v2's to clear out.
 

Excellent news. So you have tested both models? My main concern is not flying massive distances, not my style. I am interested in maximum reception while in wooded areas. So I really want to believe you but I'm already thinking I'll have to get the RC's modified.
 
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I've had my I1 Pro for a couple weeks and have been out three times with it -- I've had reception issues every time!

Today I flew 4 batteries and had several comm related issues. In most cases right on power up the copter would complete it's gimbal homing dance and then the Go app would show no reception. As usual I boot the RC first, then boot the copter, then the Go App and with 2 of the 4 batteries there was a no reception problem and no video feed.

On two occasions I had reception issues in flight and within 200 feet of the RC. I'd take my hands off the stick and in a few seconds the video would come back on. When I had a reception issue in flight it appears it was mostly the video downlink and not the control uplink.

So, I'm not sure what effect the mismatch between the RC and copter version should produce but I can say my experience isn't giving me a warm fuzzy.

I should mention that when I had the reception issues on startup the copter was about 15-20 feet away from the RC so not too close or too far.


Brian
 
I received my I1 v2.0 from BH Photo on 12/2/15. The I1 says 1410 under the battery but the remote says GL658C. If I had received the older remote I would be more concerned.

The only logical next step is for someone to use some engineering equipment (oscilloscope?) to ACCURATELY measure the both the transmitter and receivers power. I have not flown a max distance to field test the max distance but the fact that I did receive the updated remote makes me think that they could have also included the updated transmitter along with the motors and gimbal plate. I do question the legal ramifications of not updating the FCC sticker but it wouldnt surprise me if some of the early v2.0 used off the shelf old stock bodies (with the old sticker) but inlcuded the updated parts which included the more powerful transmitter.

I dont have any empirical proof one way or another but figured I would weigh on the on the speculation.
 
If it says WM6102410 you have the older lower powered transmitter in your bird. It would be illegal for them the label anything other than what was installed.
 
If it says WM6102410 you have the older lower powered transmitter in your bird. It would be illegal for them the label anything other than what was installed.

Yes I understand that. That doesn't prove anything one way or another though. Hypothetically they could easily say (again hypothetically speaking) "Due to Manufacturing error early production units were sold with mislabeled FCC stickers." My point was someone actually needs to test the power output to make a conclusive case.

It would also be illegal to sell something that knowingly doesn't match the specs and we already know that happened. I am just keeping an open mind on the matter.
 
It would also be illegal to sell something that knowingly doesn't match the specs and we already know that happened. I am just keeping an open mind on the matter.

Just be be clear we do not know that has happened, the craft meets the spect provided by DJI regardless of FCC

Both the inspire with 1410 and the P3 will meet the new specs DJI have posted on their site under optimal conditions.

This has been proven time and time again and as posts before the P3 has seen the same spec increase but not increase in power, in fact a reduction has been made.

I also find it unlikely they would ship higher output with the wrong label , The fact they went to the trouble of printing the label with V2 and 1410 shows they are on top of compliance, Otherwise all V2 would have shipped with the new FCC from the start or the old label would have remained.

There is no evidence to say DJI have broken any rules with regards to the FCC.

But it would be good to see all the models output measured as its all ways interesting.
 
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I apologize as that was not what I was trying to say. I was referencing an earlier poster who said the 1410 isnt a complete v2.0 because it doesn't have the extended distance, nothing to do with FCC specs.
 
Pardon my french, but DJI is a bunch of asswipes. I bought a Pro Dec 23rd, which was a T600 and was DOA. They exchanged it, I very politely asked if they please could send me a T601 as I was having also RC issues. Answer: You send in a T600 you get a T600...! Just unbelievable.

Sold it on ebay straight away.
 
Please send me those specs please
byron@vividaerial.com
 
Just be be clear we do not know that has happened, the craft meets the spect provided by DJI regardless of FCC

But it doesn't meet the specs they filed with the FCC re: transmission power on the bird.

There is no evidence to say DJI have broken any rules with regards to the FCC.

I'll have to say with much further online investigation, 2 calls to my retailer and multiple calls to DJI all resulting in lost connections something seems amiss here.

Granted this is FCC only but, if DJI stated in their FCC filing that an Inspire V2 would have increased power in the 2.4ghz spectrum and what they are delivering does not, that is not compliant with their FCC filing. In an earlier post you suggested there was more to add regarding the FCC spec's and I would love to hear your opinion on that as you appear knowledgeable in this regard.

Further, there has to be a reason DJI increased their transmitter power on the V2's. One can only guess at what that might have been. Maybe there is too much clutter in the 2.4 spectrum in USA? Who knows but, it stands to reason they wouldn't just increase transmission power for no reason right?

Also, I just received my RMA bird and even though the QC date stamp was 12-4 it was still a 600, not a 601. Back it goes again. I am not going to ask my retailer to send another because every time I open one they have an open box item. They have been very gracious but I'll just wait out the inventory flush so I get a V2 with the power levels they submitted to the FCC.
 

Have a chat with the FCC and see what's relevant in the filings,

The 2 important pieces of data are Model number and FCC ID

These are correct

T601 with 1510
T600 with 1410

The V2 is part of the name
 
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Have a chat with the FCC and see what's relevant in the filings,

The 2 important pieces of data are Model number and FCC ID

These are correct

T601 with 1510
T600 with 1410

The V2 is part of the name

Thank you, I will do just that regarding the FCC and see what I garner from that conversation and/or correspondence.

What is your opinion on the increase in power output? Like I said, it stands to reason DJI increased the power on the 601 for "some" reason. Have you heard anything about why this was done for FCC birds? I only guessed about needing it due to clutter within that spectrum in FCC governed areas but I cant see DJI increasing the power for no reason at all. Would you not agree?
 
So I am reading all of this and have a question that is more real world. So while in the military I worked on Radar, Transmitters, Receivers, etc on H-3 and H-60 air-frames. I took a 12 month long course in advanced math to figure out specs on wave-guides, antennas, etc also. If you have a transmitter that has more power (good, bad, indifferent conditions) you will have more range. This is fact and through math this can be shown.

However here is my question. This range will be at the end of your spectrum. i.e. you have a transmitter/receiver combo that gives you 4.7 km. Now you change this combo and you have a more powerful transmitter/receiver combo and now you have a 5.2 km for your range.

After all of the banter I have heard on her about Hobbyists this and that who should be flying at 5.2 km let alone 4.7 km. From what I have read the laws state that you will fly LOS....

So i get that the pieces may or may not match but in the end is this going to affect what you truly do with the drone? Light Bridge has a limited range so tell me what are you flying with at 5 km?? VLS???.......
 
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