X5R Ship Date and Pricing

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

EDIT: confirmed.

DJI Zenmuse X5R Camera and Inspire 1 RAW Now Available for Pre-order

Just getting this from one source right now, not confirmed yet but:

Ship date is apparently March, 2016 and pricing for EU it will be cheaper than originally announced/speculated:

Inspire 1 RAW (Drone + Camera) € 6,999

ZENMUSE X5R (without lens, with SSD) € 3,799

ZENMUSE X5R € 4,199

Rainbowers · Dec 23, 2015

Just made public the prices and specifications, but.....
RAW files are at how much bit ? One of the most important elements for RAW specification is not mentioned ! A 8 or 16 bit raw file is a huge difference ! The lack of this information is not professional.
If it is 8 bit, it is worth not much, a minimum is 10 ! What is the answer DJI ?

Phil-RCGeeks · Dec 23, 2015

We've just got the UK prices and they are as follow...

Inspire 1 RAW (2 controllers, SSD and Lens) = £5,189
Zenmuse X5R (with lens) = £3,119
Zenmuse X5R (without lens) = £2,819

Also expecting to be shipped March 2016.

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
Just made public the prices and specifications, but.....
RAW files are at how much bit ? One of the most important elements for RAW specification is not mentioned ! A 8 or 16 bit raw file is a huge difference ! The lack of this information is not professional.
If it is 8 bit, it is worth not much, a minimum is 10 ! What is the answer DJI ?

Should be the same as the RAW still photo output from the X5 (what bit depth is that?), but 25 or 30 frames per second.

Rainbowers · Dec 23, 2015

damoncooper said:
Should be the same as the RAW still photo output from the X5 (what bit depth is that?), but 25 or 30 frames per second.

RAW still is 8 bit as I analysed from a downloaded footage:

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
RAW still is 8 bit as I analysed from a downloaded footage:

Actually I'm mistaken. The X5R will be 10-bit 4:4:4, according to the launch specs.

Rainbowers · Dec 23, 2015

damoncooper said:
Actually I'm mistaken. The X5R will be 10-bit 4:4:4, according to the launch specs.

Can I see these specifications ? I did not found on the announcement of today, neither on the official specification of the X5Raw. Thanks.

apsussex · Dec 23, 2015

Phil-RCGeeks said:
We've just got the UK prices and they are as follow...

Inspire 1 RAW (2 controllers, SSD and Lens) = £5,189
Zenmuse X5R (with lens) = £3,119
Zenmuse X5R (without lens) = £2,819

Also expecting to be shipped March 2016.

Great stuff, thats not as bad as I was expecting .

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
Can I see these specifications ? I did not found on the announcement of today, neither on the official specification of the X5Raw. Thanks.

www.cnet.com/products/dji-inspire-1-x5/

Rainbowers · Dec 23, 2015

damoncooper said:
www.cnet.com/products/dji-inspire-1-x5/

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Thanks Damon ! If they can give a net-flight time of 20 minutes, I am buyer. Actually 10 minutes is really too short for setting up all parameters, focus, exposure, waypoints .....
How many minutes raw video on a 512 Gb SSD ?
Strange that your information is not mentioned on the official specifications !

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
Thanks Damon ! If they can give a net-flight time of 20 minutes, I am buyer. Actually 10 minutes is really too short for setting up all parameters, focus, exposure, waypoints .....
How many minutes raw video on a 512 Gb SSD ?
Strange that your information is not mentioned on the official specifications !

No way you will get 20 min with the X5 or X5R with a TB48.

You CAN get that with a battery mod. Here's my latest flight with X3.

Rainbowers · Dec 23, 2015

damoncooper said:
No way you will get 20 min with the X5 or X5R with a TB48.

You CAN get that with a battery mod. Here's my latest flight with X3.

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Wow, where to find the mod, is it safe ? A 30 minutes with the X3 will be a 20 minutes with the X5raw ?
The main reason to look for the H920 (30 minutes with 3 batteries) and its security of 6 motors and acceptable footage at 10 Mbps. I think RAW will be too big to handle. Often I shoot a 40 minutes a day .... + my Sony F5 16bit RAW footage, thinking to buy another 24 Tb disk.

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
Wow, where to find the mod, is it safe ? A 30 minutes with the X3 will be a 20 minutes with the X5raw ?
The main reason to look for the H920 (30 minutes with 3 batteries) and its security of 6 motors and acceptable footage at 10 Mbps. I think RAW will be too big to handle. Often I shoot a 40 minutes a day .... + my Sony F5 16bit RAW footage, thinking to buy another 24 Tb disk.

Here you go, I have a thread on this here:

Battery Mod Info | DJI Inspire Forum

InterMurph · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
How many minutes raw video on a 512 Gb SSD ?

The average bit rate is 1.7 gigabits/second; divide by 8, and that yields 212.5 megabytes/second. So a 512GB disk should be able to hold about 40 minutes of footage.

In other words, this X5R is in desperate need of ProRes.

Edit: That is for 4K video, of course; that 512GB disk should be able to fit almost 3 hours of 1080p footage. But why would one want to shoot 1080p footage with this camera?

damoncooper · Dec 23, 2015

InterMurph said:
The average bit rate is 1.7 gigabits/second; divide by 8, and that yields 212.5 megabytes/second. So a 512GB disk should be able to hold about 40 minutes of footage.

In other words, this X5R is in desperate need of ProRes.

Edit: That is for 4K video, of course; that 512GB disk should be able to fit almost 3 hours of 1080p footage. But why would one want to shoot 1080p footage with this camera?

I wonder if we can easily offload or swap SSD drives in the field?

Kilrah · Dec 23, 2015

Yes the launch videos showed the SSD being removeable. It will likely be expensive though, given it's a proprietary format.

lrwskyfilms · Dec 23, 2015

Rainbowers said:
Thanks Damon ! If they can give a net-flight time of 20 minutes, I am buyer. Actually 10 minutes is really too short for setting up all parameters, focus, exposure, waypoints .....
How many minutes raw video on a 512 Gb SSD ?
Strange that your information is not mentioned on the official specifications !

8/10 mins, i.e change with the battery.

InterMurph · Dec 23, 2015

lrwskyfilms said:
8/10 mins, i.e change with the battery.

More like 40 minutes; see the calculations above.

InterMurph · Dec 23, 2015

Wondering why we can't yet order from the DJI store, and why B&H still quotes the $4,999 price for the X5R camera with no lens.

Edit:Adorama seems to have the updated pricing (x5r Buy or Learn at Adorama), but backwards; $3,199 for the X5R + lens, $3,599 for the X5R with no lens.

Rainbowers · Dec 27, 2015

What Damon and I find out made my conclusions:
For video: we need the very good Prores422HQ, nobody will see the difference with raw and with acceptable file size. Secondly comfortable flying time what means for me minimum 30 minutes what results in 20 minutes for safety to take the right shot with all parameters set up properly at the moment of the shot and with no stress. The reason we see the most X5 footage worse as from the X3. I repeat for video ! For photo the X5 can be considered.

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