Restricted flying issue

[lolsfuav]

lolsfuav
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I would like to ask if anyone has experienced a similar recent problem?

I turned the tablet onto aeroplane mode to help reduce interference that came across another problem when changing batteries. Because the aircraft and controller constantly try to check the latest firmware State, is it cannot confirm with I guess main server it restricts the aircraft to 50 m away and 30 m up and will remain so until it can corroborate its enquiry!!

Frustratingly having to Bring the aircraft backdown turning everything off and then back on again insuring it has the ability to connect to either a GSM network or Wi-Fi in order to confirm with DJI HQ.

Has anyone else come across this problem and is there a way around it as what do do if we're in an area without signal or in an area with restricted signal access???

 

[IrishSights]

If you have upgraded to the latest firmware and app it is standard behaviour for at least the latest upgrade...sadly. Once you login that's you with restored functionality again. Like it or not that's the way this cookie crumbles.

 

[lolsfuav]

If you have upgraded to the latest firmware and app it is standard behaviour for at least the latest upgrade...sadly. Once you login that's you with restored functionality again. Like it or not that's the way this cookie crumbles.

So what do you do if you can't get signal for it to confirm id and firmware Your F*±KED!!!

 

[IrishSights]

Correct. Don't like it either. Caught me out when doing a rare family wedding with the Z3 on my Osmo.

 

[Mark Taylor]

So what do you do if you can't get signal for it to confirm id and firmware Your F*±KED!!!

No, you only have to login once at some point when you do have internet connection and then don't log out.

You do not need internet access every time you fly.

 

[Viper Pilot]

What Mark says is correct. Just do it once when your updating all the S/W and F/W and your good to go.

 

[Advexure]

Correct, once you've logged in to your DJI account through the GO App while connected to internet the app caches the account information and will unlock the heavy restriction on altitude and distance. Really the only time you could be prompted to have to re-login would be if you remove the GO App and reinstall. We fly with wi-fi only iPads often but always have the ability to tether to cellular service from our phones if need be while in the field. That ability has definitely come in handy at times.

 

[Ralph thompson]

Unless u cache your map ahead of time then u have to connect through a network or yr cell phone hotspot to get the right map for yr flying area & if nothing else just to verify yr Home point. Especially when using Apps like Autopilot, I like to be sure I have an accurate map on my iPad so an internet connection is necessary.

 

[Figbar]

I am still having problems with this flight restriction message. I have deleted my Go App and have reinstalled it. I then signed off this app signed back in.

My firmware is - Aircraft 1.8.1.00...I don't want to install current firmware because I had all kinds of issues with it. I fly the Inspire 1 (first version) with and X5.

I started the craft, then started the RC, then fired up the APP. Got the restricted message. I took off and hovered at a close, safe distance, then closed the app on my I Pad and reopened it. I still got this message.

I tried this twice with 2 separate batteries that have just been deep cycled.

This is extremely frustrating...I'm not doing this as a hobby...I fly commercially and have my Remote License.

I did fly well beyond the restricted instructions, and everything was good.

I hate having to ignore serious warnings like this. I see that this has been an issue for Inspire1 folks for quite some time now. My take is that DJI does not really give a crap about those of us who are still using the Inspire 1...otherwise, this would have been addressed properly.

Any suggestions would really be appreciated. I'm supposed to fly in Pittsburgh next week....over the rivers...and this kind of stuff makes me nuts!

Thanks

 

[Keule]

This is caused by the GO app.
Stay on DJI GO 3.1.11 or lower.

You can also try 3rd party apps like Litchi or Autopilot.

Regards,
K.

 

[Ralph thompson]

I'm using Go App 3.1.15, Inspire 1 Pro firmware up-to-date, no particular issues. I even photographed an low traffic airport in a DJI Authorization Zone a couple of weeks ago. We were monitoring the Unicom frequency with a transceiver, the airport operator managed the airport radio and we operated on a day with no forecast traffic. We had the full approval & cooperation of the airport owner. I registered on the DJI GEO System site for advanced authorization the night before, pretty straight forward process. The next day I booted everything up, clicked authorized & approved etc. and off we went. I did have a cell connection (connected to the iPad using hotspot) but there is a process to unlock the system if you have no cell phone connection on site. I used the Go App & Autopilot. I haven't ever had cause to operate in a Restricted Area yet but DJI have a process, you need an official letter from the airport for Restricted. For me, DJI is doing a good job.

 

[n5101]

There are non-DJI ways to prevent DJI app from affecting flying in restricted airspace. But I do not see the need for this. Inspire 2 is aimed & priced for professional operation, and it's operators will comply with all FAA / CAA regulations themselves. That is a requirement by law in these countries. Why would DJI imply it's own laws I have no idea (I do not see the need to clear with chinese company servers where I will be operating my aircraft).
RE: Ralph thompson
You are incorrect about your statement that letter is required to operate in "airport for Restricted". All it's needed is corresponding ATC authorization which even can be obtained (as traffic load & other conditions permit) via two way radio communication.
Personally unless I am planning to talk to ATC before actual flight (which is always a good thing if it's in busy airspace) I file the flight on FAA website for UAS operations. Which in turn issues notam (notice to airmen) for the time and place where I will be operating my drone. What DJI has to do with that? I guess information collection... and i do not intend to thank them for that.
Personally, I have FAA 107 waiver for operations which gives me a bit more freedom (for example as an ATP I don't need RPA rating). But it's unrelated to the procedures I have listed

 

[The Editor]

There are non-DJI ways to prevent DJI app from affecting flying in restricted airspace. But I do not see the need for this. Inspire 2 is aimed & priced for professional operation, and it's operators will comply with all FAA / CAA regulations themselves. That is a requirement by law in these countries. Why would DJI imply it's own laws I have no idea (I do not see the need to clear with chinese company servers where I will be operating my aircraft).
RE: Ralph thompson
You are incorrect about your statement that letter is required to operate in "airport for Restricted". All it's needed is corresponding ATC authorization which even can be obtained (as traffic load & other conditions permit) via two way radio communication.
Personally unless I am planning to talk to ATC before actual flight (which is always a good thing if it's in busy airspace) I file the flight on FAA website for UAS operations. Which in turn issues notam (notice to airmen) for the time and place where I will be operating my drone. What DJI has to do with that? I guess information collection... and i do not intend to thank them for that.
Personally, I have FAA 107 waiver for operations which gives me a bit more freedom (for example as an ATP I don't need RPA rating). But it's unrelated to the procedures I have listed

This has been debated ad nauseum on here before. It is not to control the certified operators. It is DJI's attempt to weed out the idiot gene flyers out there, of which there are plenty.

 

[Ralph thompson]

See DJI GEO System - Unlock Areas For Authorized Access. It used to say "send a letter etc". Now it just says "Red Areas are Restricted Zones that cannot be unlocked".
Anyway guess we got off topic somehow.

 

[n5101]

Foreign company should not attempt to enforce other countries law. (Common sense). Compliance with DJI requirements will not clear you from 3 years jail / 250,000$ fine in case of airspace violations.
Idiot gene can google ATC for the particular area and call them on the phone to let them know about his future flight, thats all.
I am not a certified operator, just a pilot who knows regulations.

Regarding DJI application you can just alter configuration file and it will no longer bother you with restrictions. But you still are liable not to break any TFR (temporary flight restrictions) and other requirements without proper authorization.