Be Carefull

[m00se]

Well Kilrah, guess you have never had a drone do this to you and if you have did you use the csc function? There have been hundreds or even thousands of problems with drones in the air, saying that all these people don't know crap is quite ignorent on your part, I find it quite hilarious that you defend this feature but you or anyone yet can't give one example of anyone using it in a desperate situation. Prove me wrong, please

It is only human nature to try to save a craft before making an emergency reaction such as killing the motors. I lost a cuad once, a 20k euros cuad. I couldnt bring myself to kill the motors, so I activated the emergency landing function, which in this case was also much much safer,

I do make sure that the company I work for knows, that if I cannot bring the cuad under control at any point in time, i will do my very best to take it away from people, and then crash it, either by a forced landing when out of control if possible, or by cutting the motors.

On another topic, i think the DJI design of the controller is horrid in terms of switching to ATTI, that small stick, and having to put it in the middle , not one of the endpoints is rediculous, that is not something easy to do when in a state of tension / panic

 

[Drone Mastery]

Can you show me where I closed the thread because I said an Android 10.5 S doesn't fit the Inspire tablet holder please?
Just post a link and I will take a look.

Thanks.

forum: dji pilot app, heading : Best tablet to use.... Mar. 5th

 

[The Editor]

forum: dji pilot app, heading : Best tablet to use.... Mar. 5th

Although I am a moderator and have several forum tools available to me including looking at deleted items and edited posts/threads etc I am having a problem locating this particular thread Drone Mastery is referring to.
If anyone can point me to the post via a link it would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

 

[Drone Mastery]

He ya go Editor,

http://www.inspirepilots.com/threads/best-tablet-to-use.2696/

 

[Arctictern]

CSC is there, DJI will not make it go away, even if you think they should. Get over it please, now go and enjoy a flight or 2. This has run its course.

There is noting wrong with discussing these issues, that is the whole point of forums. Bouncing ideas off each others can be very useful and can sometimes come up with very good solutions to problems. No one is breaking any forum rules here and they are just discussing and expressing opinions. I don't really see is necessary to come on here and tell anyone to "get over' anything. If you don't want to get involved then don't read it and move on.

 

[The Editor]

He ya go Editor,

http://www.inspirepilots.com/threads/best-tablet-to-use.2696/

Ahhhh... thank you got it.

Now read my post again..... I was not referring to the Samsung, my post quoted Outta Controls post showing 'The ten commandments tablet'
It was an attempt at humor.

The reason I closed the thread down is that there were/are dozons of similar threads debating EXACTLY the same thing about one tablet being better than another and is Android better than Apple etc.
Another repeat thread like that would have served no useful purpose if people only did a search.

Thanks for finding it though.

 

[IrishSights]

There is noting wrong with discussing these issues, that is the whole point of forums. Bouncing ideas off each others can be very useful and can sometimes come up with very good solutions to problems. No one is breaking any forum rules here and they are just discussing and expressing opinions. I don't really see is necessary to come on here and tell anyone to "get over' anything. If you don't want to get involved then don't read it and move on.

Discussion is fine, what I am trying to to say is nothing will change, thats all.

Oh and please do not intimate that I am saying forum rules are broken, Lord forbid! I am sorry if 'get over it please' offended you, not intended. Much in the same vein as 'move on' as you have suggested to me, so I have.

 

[Gary Bateman]

I'm new to the inspire haven't flown yet but this worries me very much. Weather permitting I will get a mate to help me with an idea over the weekend.
Two people one step ladder ( six foot ). Start up inspire on ground with the props off. Get my mate to climb ladder and hold it so sensors are looking directly at the ground, look at the app to see what the height reading is, raise gear up if not done automatically. Then try to shut down the motors using every combination of throttle positions I can think of.

Let's see what happens.

 

[DCGOO]

I'm new to the inspire haven't flown yet but this worries me very much. Weather permitting I will get a mate to help me with an idea over the weekend.
Two people one step ladder ( six foot ). Start up inspire on ground with the props off. Get my mate to climb ladder and hold it so sensors are looking directly at the ground, look at the app to see what the height reading is, raise gear up if not done automatically. Then try to shut down the motors using every combination of throttle positions I can think of.
Let's see what happens.

I suspect that holding on to the AC is not the same as the craft actually flying, and will not be a valid test.

 

[Gary Bateman]

I suspect that holding on to the AC is not the same as the craft actually flying, and will not be a valid test.

It's a question of testing the sonic sensors and what causes the motors to turn off while using the sticks. It's a matter of fooling the aircraft and software into thinking its airborne. Just a matter of let's suck it and see. Btw had my inspire over a week and still not had the props on yet (lol).

 

[LockMD]

Btw had my inspire over a week and still not had the props on yet (lol).

Now I don't feel so bad, I'm checking, re-checking, and re-checking that as well as trying to learn the app better. Then maybe my hands wont shake if I get more comfy

 

[Howie_UK]

@Gary Bateman - Have you put that thing in the air yet, and I don't mean up a step ladder? These things are amazing, get it out of the box and into the sky. I don't have your patience. I had looked at as many web sites, forums, videos and online user manuals as I could before the day I was able to go and collect from Quadcopters.co.uk As soon as I arrived back home,I had the batteries on charge - and then held my breath, tried to control the heartbeat, dried off the sweat from my forehead and my palms and probably lost 50% of by battery power while doing (and re-doing) my pre flight checks and compass callibration dance.
News to date - mostly good. Did give a bush in the garden a bit of a trim (cost me two blades) caused by poor spacial awareness on my part, while testing the RTH and auto land feature (quite a large target area, as it turns out - not as precise as I expected!)
Hope you are flying the flag on your drone, not just on your avatar

 

[lake_flyer]

It should never shut off in the air when you keep the the throttle at 6.

Just thinking out loud here, but I might always be wrong and correct me if I am:
Couldn't the FC be wrong sometimes, thinking it's not descending anymore, while in fact it is descending along with a down draft, or pocket of air, and barometric pressure is staying the same for a few seconds?
That pocket would only have to be 8 to 12 meters deep to have it think it's on the ground for 2 sec. (DJI claims 3 sec but it is only 2, in my experience)

Thinking further:
Coming down full speed from 500m high you might have been starting a VRS without even knowing it. The barometric pressure under the rotors might have given the FC a false reading for just a few secs.

Personally I would never do (or did) a full throttle 6 descend and never will, unless in an emergency. 4m/s might be the max but is not safe in all circumstances. I know I can, but the risk of VRS or the FC decides it has landed (if my theory is correct), is too big for me.

 

[lake_flyer]

Yeap is there, but in not way this should allow the throttle to turn the inspire one off while in fly and descending don't u think...? how ever i was not flying in doors anyway

Mufo, I was wondering,

Was the landing gear lowered when you found it?

 

[huppe]

It's a question of testing the sonic sensors and what causes the motors to turn off while using the sticks. It's a matter of fooling the aircraft and software into thinking its airborne. Just a matter of let's suck it and see. Btw had my inspire over a week and still not had the props on yet (lol).

All I can say,start your engines and fly!!You must be the most patience guy in the world.Remember when my Inspire came out of it's case and the first thing I did was charging the battery.Within 90 minutes is was in the air.One of the best moments from he last months

 

[Figbar]

1500 feet in the air? How is this OK? Am I missing something?

 

[Droz23]

Yeap is there, but in not way this should allow the throttle to turn the inspire one off while in fly and descending don't u think...? how ever i was not flying in doors anyway

It is important to have a accurate understanding of the lights status and conditions. What lights are you referring to? How many times have you flown the craft and THAT battery? What was the weather situation? A battery defect seems to be the likely candidate, excluding a short or battery maintenance error. Did the craft have a preflight inspection (wire damage, battery swell, leaks)? Ex... My sorry about your bird. Electrical malfunctions are very hard to judge. I am good with this stuff so if you can cover the inquiries i have made, and be very specific about the failure event, I may nail it down.

 

[Droz23]

1500 feet in the air? How is this OK? Am I missing something?

If it is in the US, no, but it is his bird and it is with in the guidelines of the craft. 400 ft is FAA reg if that is what you are inferring, but we don't know that info.

 

[Droz23]

i know what happened.

you pulled the the throttle stick all the way back for the 3 seconds or what ever and it sent the shutdown command.

i read on the dji forums this happening to people. there are about 3-6 stick positions you can shut the props down and people have been triggering them just by chance during flight and kablamo!

i've tested this out, with the gear raised i stood under my inspire with my hand on whilte flying, sent the kill command and it will stop the props.

there is no fail-safe programmed in that says if the inspire is 2ft off the ground the shutdown commands don't work, they work fine at any time

you were up high enough you probably could had restarted the motors back up before it hit. let this be a lesson to everyone else, don't ever pull the left stick all the way back to speed up a decent. if you bottom the thing out on the sidewall of the controller push it back up to neutral IMMEDIATELY or you might have a red baron on your hands.

used inspires that have crashed come up here and there for less then 1000.00 bucks on ebay, depending on what broke you could bring it back to life but parts are not cheap, the position module alone is 100.00 but i say 600 give or take you could probably get it working again

1200 Ft? The craft was at max velocity at the point. The PCB's are probably shot and the frame, connectors, shroud, camera, landing gear, are probably done. But he has the remote!

 

[Droz23]

It is only human nature to try to save a craft before making an emergency reaction such as killing the motors. I lost a cuad once, a 20k euros cuad. I couldnt bring myself to kill the motors, so I activated the emergency landing function, which in this case was also much much safer,

I do make sure that the company I work for knows, that if I cannot bring the cuad under control at any point in time, i will do my very best to take it away from people, and then crash it, either by a forced landing when out of control if possible, or by cutting the motors.

On another topic, i think the DJI design of the controller is horrid in terms of switching to ATTI, that small stick, and having to put it in the middle , not one of the endpoints is rediculous, that is not something easy to do when in a state of tension / panic

You sir, are on point with that statement about the ATTI mode. If, one needs to dump the rookie mode and fly like a pilot then it should be a hard stop mode at the end of the selector option (all the way back or forward). When something goes wrong with the avionics I preferred a basic option that allows for direct application of pilot skill, even if it is a fly by wired setup.