This is a fair point, but it will indeed kill the industry. As I stated above, the crazier the rules get, the less likely I will be to purchase one.
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This is a fair point, but it will indeed kill the industry. As I stated above, the crazier the rules get, the less likely I will be to purchase one.If you've got a camera operator and he's handling everything related to the video feed so you can concentrate on flying conventionally, no problem.
It's not the optimal situation to do the best possible job, but the job quality might need to suffer a bit in a compromise with safety.
I wasn't talking about flying exclusively FPV. I was talking about glancing down at your video feed. Within the last year I purchased some goggles and completely agree with that. You're situational awareness is really poor, especially when you first start out. But if you have a video monitor at eye level to glance at. It seems like an increased level of awareness if you ask me.I'm afraid this has been debated until the cows come home.
If you are flying exclusively FPV your situational awareness is virtually nil.
So true.Youtube is full of videos from drone operators flying with zero concern of the rules and safety. They treat this as just another toy and who needs any learnin to play with a toy. Sadly, it is there actions that doom the rest of us.
I frequent a number of other web forums and periodically see posts related to drone use. In many cases the poster is showing of the cool video they got and all too often that cool video was done by either breaking existing rules/laws or violating common sense safety concerns. When I politely challenge there methods it's not uncommon for them to get pissy about it and for others to chime in likewise.
People just don't think things through...
OTH, the idea that looking at a tablet is necessarily bad isn't true either. A pilot of an actual airplane is taught to perform a sweep of the instruments and looking out the cockpit windows so taking there eyes off the road ahead isn't a problem it's part of the solution. The challenge with out small drones is that they're small and at a distance hard to see. Maintaining proper situational awareness requires a disciplined approach, but mandating that discipline isn't easy when there little legal framework mandating the training to achieve it.
So, the easy solution is to ban there use which this rule effectively does.
Brian
Phenomenal popularity of RC controlled drones is reaching the point of saturation. Period. With swarms of Phantoms and inspires above our heads in public parks and residential areas chances for things going wrong increases rapidly. It is obvious that such activities must be tamed by some regulations, limitations and banned air spaces to avoid accidents. Piloting any flying apparatus, remotely or not, is a serious issue. I wouldn't worry much about drone industry health: this Christmas they've made a fortune...The police shutdown flying all drones with tablet interfaces on Saturday. You can't even fly drones with tablet interfaces in model airplane fields. This is going to kill drone industry
I haven't seen many Phantoms out in the wild and I've seen no Inspires. Maybe it's different where you live but I'd hardly call it a swarm.The phenomenal popularity of RC controlled drones is reaching the point of saturation. Period. With swarms of Phantoms and inspires above our heads in public parks and residential areas chances for things going wrong increases rapidly. It is obvious that such activities must be tamed by some regulations, limitations and banned air spaces to avoid accidents. Piloting any flying apparatus, remotely or not, is a serious issue. I wouldn't worry much about drone industry health: this Christmas they've made a fortune...
OTH, the idea that looking at a tablet is necessarily bad isn't true either. A pilot of an actual airplane is taught to perform a sweep of the instruments and looking out the cockpit windows so taking there eyes off the road ahead isn't a problem it's part of the solution. The challenge with out small drones is that they're small and at a distance hard to see. Maintaining proper situational awareness requires a disciplined approach, but mandating that discipline isn't easy when there little legal framework mandating the training to achieve it.
I think that is pretty ridiculous. That would be equivalent to glancing away from the quad momentarily for any reason. Watch your step, look for other aircraft, someone is walking up behind you, the police are talking to me. Whops, just glanced away, take me to jail.
That's certainly not the spirit of the rule. If your maintaining visual line sight and you look at your fpv monitor to frame a photo or video but continue to watch the aircraft as well. I can't image what the problem would be.
One could certainly argue no goggles with this, but with a monitor that you can glance back and fourth..
Phoenix is about the same except they have designated 8 city parks where you can fly with restrictions. I was about to fly in a large desert park when a park ranger informed me of the new rules.The police shutdown flying all drones with tablet interfaces on Saturday. You can't even fly drones with tablet interfaces in model airplane fields. This is going to kill drone industry
The FAA strictly forbids any local or state agencies from making ANY rules regulations concerning sUAS flights!!!!!Phoenix is about the same except they have designated 8 city parks where you can fly with restrictions. I was about to fly in a large desert park when a park ranger informed me of the new rules.
Phoenix Online Codes
They may not be able to ban flights above but they I assume, as land owners, they can say whether your can takeoff and land on their property.The FAA strictly forbids any local or state agencies from making ANY rules regulations concerning sUAS flights!!!!!
Local and State laws cannot supersede Federal regulations
Don't make that assumption it is publicly owned land.They may not be able to ban flights above but they I assume, as land owners, they can say whether your can takeoff and land on their property.
The FAA strictly forbids any local or state agencies from making ANY rules regulations concerning sUAS flights!!!!!
Local and State laws cannot supersede Federal regulations
Based on what regulations?but the cities and state can control where you take off and land.
Any local jurisdiction can regulate where you can take off and land on public property. FAA has jurisdiction over where you fly.Don't make that assumption it is publicly owned land.
There are none saying they can't or they can...FAA has no jurisdiction over what happens on the ground. Do us all a favor and cite your own regulations as well. It only helps to educate fellow forum members.Based on what regulations?
Any local jurisdiction can regulate where you can take off and land on public property. FAA has jurisdiction of where you fly.
Nitpicking a rule won't make it so, The FAA clearly states in plain language that local and state authorities cannot make rules concerning sUAS flights, and thereby cannot circumvent the intent. Also the original poster said operations using iPads were being singled out a very clear violation of FAA policyAny local jurisdiction can regulate where you can take off and land on public property. FAA has jurisdiction over where you fly.
It's not nitpicking. It would be a land use regulation and thus not subject to FAA jurisdiction. Please stop spreading misinformation and read this document focusing specifically on the following quote:Nitpicking a rule won't make it so, The FAA clearly states in plain language that local and state authorities cannot make rules concerning sUAS flights, and thereby cannot circumvent the intent. Also the original poster said operations using iPads were being singled out a very clear violation of FAA policy
I think we'll simply agree to disagree for now, time will shake this all out. As for your links,It's not nitpicking. It would be a land use regulation and thus not subject to FAA jurisdiction. Please stop spreading misinformation and read this document focusing specifically on the following quote:
http://www.faa.gov/uas/regulations_policies/media/UAS_Fact_Sheet_Final.pdf
- Laws traditionally related to state and local police power – including land use, zoning, privacy, trespass, and law enforcement operations – generally are not subject to federal regulation.
If that isn't clear enough, you can read this lawyers interpretation of all relevant drone laws he is in agreement with me and others on this.
Drone Law Journal
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