inspire 1 v1 stability/ flyaways

[vlper]

Hi

have just started flying inspire 1 v1 not too long ago. just wondering whats the latest, any more reports of flyaways? on my first flight with the inspire it lost gps and started to spiral for 5 secs but recovered pretty soon. nearly gave me a heart attack.

 

[lake_flyer]

Hi

have just started flying inspire 1 v1 not too long ago. just wondering whats the latest, any more reports of flyaways? on my first flight with the inspire it lost gps and started to spiral for 5 secs but recovered pretty soon. nearly gave me a heart attack.

The occasional drop into Atti is something you will have to be prepared for, always. Learn how to fly in Atti, first in the simulator with various wind speeds, later in the field with very calm weather.
The sudden loss of GPS is mostly a software problem caused by the GO App (some versions more than others). The Inspire1 has 1 GPS receiver. The Inspire2 has 2 and the Mavic as well. However both experience the same GPS drops, so it is likely a software problem. Some are lucky and seldom see this happen. last few months I have experienced it more often, even with my dual GPS Mavic.

So become cool in Atti asap, no need for panic, just need for training. You should be able to fly it in Atti anyways, if you would want to call yourself a 'pilot' as opposed to 'user'. Oh, and never trust RTH for an easy way home, it might drop in Atti while in RTH as well. Only use it for an emergency.

 

[lake_flyer]

The occasional drop into Atti is something you will have to be prepared for, always. Learn how to fly in Atti, first in the simulator with various wind speeds, later in the field with very calm weather.
The sudden loss of GPS is mostly a software problem caused by the GO App (some versions more than others). The Inspire1 has 1 GPS receiver. The Inspire2 has 2 and the Mavic as well. However both experience the same GPS drops, so it is likely a software problem. Some are lucky and seldom see this happen. last few months I have experienced it more often, even with my dual GPS Mavic.

So become cool in Atti asap, no need for panic, just need for training. You should be able to fly it in Atti anyways, if you would want to call yourself a 'pilot' as opposed to 'user'. Oh, and never trust RTH for an easy way home, it might drop in Atti while in RTH as well. Only use it for an emergency.

I should add: Check that the compass is calibrated correctly on a safe place without magnetic interference and/or metal structures. Also, a IMU calibration while having the I1 100% level is a good thing to do. Calibrate you RC sticks as well.

 

[vlper]

thanks lake_flyer. yea i used to fly RC heli so i never really trust RTH and auto takeoff/land. my first drone is P3P and never had a compass issue. I upgraded to Inspire so i could fly in stronger winds.

i also have a mavic with my setup and haven't seen any dropouts yet. and seems dji don't trust the pilots to land the mavic themselves now!

 

[lake_flyer]

Well, at least, Atti on an Inspire1 is like a walk in the park compared to RC piloting a collective pitch RC heli without any FPV and only a battery indicator on the RC as telemetry

 

[Ironwolfjt]

Well, at least, Atti on an Inspire1 is like a walk in the park compared to RC piloting a collective pitch RC heli without any FPV and only a battery indicator on the RC as telemetry

Whew, you got that right...that was days of literally 'flying by feel'

 

[vlper]

Well, at least, Atti on an Inspire1 is like a walk in the park compared to RC piloting a collective pitch RC heli without any FPV and only a battery indicator on the RC as telemetry

very well said! Nothing beats the sound of the heli rotor though!

 

[lake_flyer]

very well said! Nothing beats the sound of the heli rotor though!

so true.

 

[lake_flyer]

Whew, you got that right...that was days of literally 'flying by feel'

It is that 'feel' or instinct, muscle memory, whatever, that kicks in on moments you most need it. Saved me on several occasions, including during my flight school exam.

 

[jlrsn]

Lake_flyer,
You stated:
It is that 'feel' or instinct, muscle memory, whatever, that kicks in on moments you most need it.
What you stated above is one of the hardest things to train in real helicopters. I've got many thousands of hours training helicopter pilots just that when they are learning "Full Down" Autorotations in Helicopters. As of yet I've never flown RC Helicopters and I can imagine that it takes many hours to learn RC Helicopter Autorotations.

 

[The Editor]

Lake_flyer,
You stated:
It is that 'feel' or instinct, muscle memory, whatever, that kicks in on moments you most need it.
What you stated above is one of the hardest things to train in real helicopters. I've got many thousands of hours training helicopter pilots just that when they are learning "Full Down" Autorotations in Helicopters. As of yet I've never flown RC Helicopters and I can imagine that it takes many hours to learn RC Helicopter Autorotations.

It certainlay does and made harder because you have no feedback from the controls - you are flying by sight alone and evaluating the attitude of the aircraft with no tactile stick feedback.

 

[Zerofactix]

It certainlay does and made harder because you have no feedback from the controls - you are flying by sight alone and evaluating the attitude of the aircraft with no tactile stick feedback.

That sounds crazy. I've been flying racing quads for a while so when a flyaway happens it doesn't feel too awkward to kick it over and regain control. But if you've only flown in GPS Mode I can see this being very scary with such an expensive craft.

I think everyone should spend a fair amount of time in atti just learning how to control it.

 

[The Editor]

That sounds crazy. I've been flying racing quads for a while so when a flyaway happens it doesn't feel too awkward to kick it over and regain control. But if you've only flown in GPS Mode I can see this being very scary with such an expensive craft.

I think everyone should spend a fair amount of time in atti just learning how to control it.

Totally agree. Which is why a proportion of the U.K. Flight assessment for commercial UAV operators must be made in atti mode if the aircraft has it.

The other thing that has to be totally instinctive is flying 3D helicopters which really can't be taught but has to be practiced with hours and hours of stick time.
As you know, nose in is easy - left becomes right, right become left, forward is backwards, backwards is forwards, yaw remains the same, up and down are unchanged.
Things get interesting when you go inverted.....
Up then become down, down becomes up, yaw is reversed, left and right are reversed unless you are nose in inverted when they are then the right way round again.