And for this very reason the FAA is considering options to allow this... good point.
And for this very reason the FAA is considering options to allow this... good point.All of the above (right and true) arguments aside, I still don't understand the purpose of flying BVLOS just for adrenaline rushing fun. I may, however, understand the urge to fly reasonably further than draconic laws allow in order to - say - take a picture of an landscape at the angle otherwise impossible to manage.
lol, I guess some people will just say anything to support their argument. This is so true Cameradroid! If what Donnie said was true, the director and producer wouldn't care less about OSHA laws either.. Here's a pub put out the Film industry that is for the purpose of film makers using drones to follow FAA laws to the letter.
All of the above (right and true) arguments aside, I still don't understand the purpose of flying BVLOS just for adrenaline rushing fun. I may, however, understand the urge to fly reasonably further than draconic laws allow in order to - say - take a picture of an landscape at the angle otherwise impossible to manage.
......using multiple VO, and also asking my site safety foreman’s for an extra set of eyes, and all the participants communicates on a radio.......
I’ve done this several times.....usually the guys are pretty stoked to be part of the drone operations. I’ve never had any issues with getting a couple onsite helpers to act as VO’s.
I myself find it hard to stay in VLOS and this has been problematic, regardless if you are mapping or site surveying, but through the years I’ve learned to combat the regulation concerning BLOS by using multiple VO, and also asking my site safety foreman’s for an extra set of eyes, and all the participants communicates on a radio. (And there are times, I’ve used the site security guards)
Map 2,000 acres and get back to me.
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Mapping 2,000 acre in one take will not be an accurate illustration.
Now we all know that tricks are only good for kids.
An "accurate illustration" of what? The challenge is easy. Map 2,000 acres and tell me how many volunteers you used to maintain VLOS, how many extra days it took to map trying to organize them all, how many radios you used to stay in contact with them all, and what your final invoice was. My partner and I did 2,000 acres in a week, which includes an hour each way to get there and back.
I don't get it. How is this relevant?
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Yep... we do it too but only on closed sets with police present. It doesn't make it right. But, as you say... you'll never work again if you can only fly 1,000 feet.Re: VLOS...
Look....I hate to rant...but I get so tired of the VLOS stuff.
As a drone professional for over 5 years, I can tell you that almost every facet of drone money making requires flight beyond VLOS. ...
Can you not get a waiver from the FAA when you need to fly beyond VLOS? Just curious.
Mapping 2,000 acres in one take.. I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. lol
But don't fool yourself about situational awareness while flying BVLOS.
A fixed direction grainy FPV cam view doesn't come close to a swiveling head with two eyeballs connected to a brain sitting in the aircraft. And that is the FAA's concern with BVLOS. As a pilot you are told to scan the sky continuously. You simply can't do that through an FPV cam for so many reasons.
It is very difficult. I think there are less than 5 entities that have that waiver.
Speaking in tongues is a technique used by those who have no argument. Touché. Message received.
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In due time, I will introduced myself.
So you're the world's greatest mapper? And have mapped millions of acres? But you're saving these credentials for just the right moment? LOL...you crack me up, man.
You could be DJI's head engineer or owner of #1 Drone company in Hollywood and I would STILL tell you you're full of s***.
Hopefully, this REALLY puts things into perspective for you.
Keep the mystery coming....LOL.....
Good day, sir.
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Mapping plays a small significant part in what we really do as a drone operator that doc is during geospatial, trench, pipe, as well as foundation layout in which we play a crucial part in aiding the licensed land surveyors and the true mappers in the industry, our maps will never be as accurate without the true lidar payload that is why I questioned your 2,000 acres.
I’ve totaled beyond what you have accomplished, but not in one flight.
I work as sole operator in one of the San Francisco Bay Area’s land development called “The Fields” Currently I’ve decided to stick with two developers Lennar and TrueBeck, but still joins doc. biddings.
I have mapped the Mortensen Raiders stadium in Las Vegas, and small mapping contracts for Brookfield during the Brooklyn redevelopment, and Reeves & Young to name a few prominent players.
I’ve listed them on my website and will add more. What we do is cool and awesome, but when your hobby becomes your livelihood it becomes a profession, and to that we have to be extra careful, special with drones that has been getting bad press that is why it is important for us so-called commercial operators to adhere to the regulations and promote safe flying.
I am not the head of engineering for DJI and I don’t wish to be, my life took another path, but funny that you brought it up, because I am close friend’s with the head of engineering and production as well as Frank and cater to them when they visit San Francisco.
this was before I joined the service USMC.
We employ the use of active GCP's, which collect satellite data over time and then store that data. That data is used to make maps accurate to within 1/10". For the larger jobs, we chose a GSD of 1"/pixel because the bird flies 20+ mph at 300' AGL...which makes for an efficient day. So if you're having accuracy issues with your photogrammetry, I suggest using more GCP's or perhaps the active GCP's we use. All our maps are architectural grade.
All that said, we started using LIDAR about a month ago, but the working speed of 10 mph makes it impractical for larger swaths of land.
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One flight? LOL...not even close. Dozens of flights over roughly seven non-consecutive days. Here are just a few...
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I don't work for developers...at least for mapping. For mapping, I subcontract out to a survey company. When I work for developers, I do construction progress videos...again, subcontracted.
All small plots that can be done in < hour.
I just quietly do my job and nobody gets hurt. No property gets damaged. The client is happy with my work. I spend more time flying than I do advocating. I'll let the guys with more time than money wave the FAA flags, have meetings, chat with the news, stand on a soapbox, etc. I fly beyond VLOS because I have to.
Notice there are 6 launch points (Base Operations). If I had to fly VLOS, there would be 10x that many launch points. We'd spend more time driving than flying. And note the terrain. There's like 3 roads. Some of these launch points could only be reached via ATV utility vehicle. The lowest to highest points spanned 850' of elevation. In a word, ROUGH terrain.
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Here's a mission spreadsheet I made before the client added another 200 acres at the end (change order not listed in spreadsheet).
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Then for the love of all that is holy, either tell him to share some **** data with their "support" staff or start a enterprise support division for those of us power users who have questions that go beyond "How do I stop the props????" SOME of us get under the hood of these things. Not all of us are slaves to DJI's "policies" and limitations. Some of us have to make a living and can't login to take a test or agree to an updated EULA every time we go out on site. A little information from DJI would save a LOT of hacking.
And give him Kudos for the government versions of their software. It's a START. Looks like DJI finally woke the f*** up and realized that all this micro-management was hurting their bottom line. They basically made my hacked versions of their software available to government entities.
Thank you for your service.
Hello Donnie,
Sorry for the late reply... Nice M600 setup! How are you finding the hacked version? is it dependable?
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